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	<title>Comments on: Rumors New iPod Touch Won&#8217;t Be Huge For Teens, VoIP</title>
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		<title>By: Justin Goldberg</title>
		<link>http://phoneboy.com/3154/rumors-new-ipod-touch-wont-be-huge-for-teens-voip/comment-page-1#comment-27468</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Goldberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 06:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tom,

thanks for the link. That&#039;s a great forum!</description>
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<p>thanks for the link. That&#8217;s a great forum!</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://phoneboy.com/3154/rumors-new-ipod-touch-wont-be-huge-for-teens-voip/comment-page-1#comment-27466</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 03:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin,

take a look at this:

http://www.voipuser.org/forum_topic_8289.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin,</p>
<p>take a look at this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.voipuser.org/forum_topic_8289.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.voipuser.org/forum_topic_8289.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Justin Goldberg</title>
		<link>http://phoneboy.com/3154/rumors-new-ipod-touch-wont-be-huge-for-teens-voip/comment-page-1#comment-27464</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Goldberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I wanted to build a service that supports unlimited calls to another country (prepaid, probably), couldn&#039;t I just put an Asterisk pbx in each country?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I wanted to build a service that supports unlimited calls to another country (prepaid, probably), couldn&#8217;t I just put an Asterisk pbx in each country?</p>
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		<title>By: Graves On SOHO VoIP &#187; Is The Rumored New iPod Touch A VoIP Platform?</title>
		<link>http://phoneboy.com/3154/rumors-new-ipod-touch-wont-be-huge-for-teens-voip/comment-page-1#comment-27462</link>
		<dc:creator>Graves On SOHO VoIP &#187; Is The Rumored New iPod Touch A VoIP Platform?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Damien Welsh (aka Phoneboy) also chimes in with some seemingly sound logic to challenge Andy&#8217;s assertion. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Is WiFi Becoming the Unregulated Stealth Carrier of the Future? &#124; Voice on the Web</title>
		<link>http://phoneboy.com/3154/rumors-new-ipod-touch-wont-be-huge-for-teens-voip/comment-page-1#comment-27461</link>
		<dc:creator>Is WiFi Becoming the Unregulated Stealth Carrier of the Future? &#124; Voice on the Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Rumors New iPod Touch Won&#8217;t Be Huge For Teens, VoIP  (phoneboy.com) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
		<link>http://phoneboy.com/3154/rumors-new-ipod-touch-wont-be-huge-for-teens-voip/comment-page-1#comment-27459</link>
		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>for this to be big VOIP would have to be built in as a backround app. also it would be a very big help for this to be able to hold up to your head like a regular cell phone.

i have used voip(mostly skype, but also fring and nimbuzz) on an itouch. it is really not very practical for inbound calls even after jailbreaking to enable backrounding and keeping wifi alive all the time.

as for the SMS. google voice is the first non-traditional phone company to accept SMS;s to their DID&#039;s but i expect that to become normal in the near term.

if apple wats this they need to put the mic and speaker in the correct locations for use like a tradional phone and build the voip in so it work exactly like the cell network connected verision. if they do that they will have a huge VOIP hit. but i do not see pre-teens so much as all sorts of people who do not really need cell phone connectivity and would be happier with the trade off of a much lower phone bill but wifi only usage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for this to be big VOIP would have to be built in as a backround app. also it would be a very big help for this to be able to hold up to your head like a regular cell phone.</p>
<p>i have used voip(mostly skype, but also fring and nimbuzz) on an itouch. it is really not very practical for inbound calls even after jailbreaking to enable backrounding and keeping wifi alive all the time.</p>
<p>as for the SMS. google voice is the first non-traditional phone company to accept SMS;s to their DID&#8217;s but i expect that to become normal in the near term.</p>
<p>if apple wats this they need to put the mic and speaker in the correct locations for use like a tradional phone and build the voip in so it work exactly like the cell network connected verision. if they do that they will have a huge VOIP hit. but i do not see pre-teens so much as all sorts of people who do not really need cell phone connectivity and would be happier with the trade off of a much lower phone bill but wifi only usage.</p>
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		<title>By: Tsahi Levent-Levi</title>
		<link>http://phoneboy.com/3154/rumors-new-ipod-touch-wont-be-huge-for-teens-voip/comment-page-1#comment-27455</link>
		<dc:creator>Tsahi Levent-Levi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dameon, I tend to agree with your analysis.
I&#039;d also say that teenagers get their phone contracts through their parents, and from what I&#039;ve seen here in Israel (and especially from my younger sister), they usually get what they want with the monthly shouting when the bill shows up on the mail.
You can add to the background applications the fact that there still is the requirement to download from the AppStore (and finding the app), which won&#039;t work for most users - it has been observed already that such Apps are usually downloaded, used and discarded within a span of a single week.
Tsahi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dameon, I tend to agree with your analysis.<br />
I&#8217;d also say that teenagers get their phone contracts through their parents, and from what I&#8217;ve seen here in Israel (and especially from my younger sister), they usually get what they want with the monthly shouting when the bill shows up on the mail.<br />
You can add to the background applications the fact that there still is the requirement to download from the AppStore (and finding the app), which won&#8217;t work for most users &#8211; it has been observed already that such Apps are usually downloaded, used and discarded within a span of a single week.<br />
Tsahi</p>
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		<title>By: Voxilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Voxilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;Things got started last week with a post by VoIP Watch ’s Andy Abramson, who waxed ecstatic over the possibilities intimated by rumored specs for the next version of Apple’s touchscreen iPod. Venerable VoIP authority and former Nokia wonk,Phoneboychimed in first, as did Michael Graves on SOHO VoIP over the weekend – with both of them coming down not quite as excited as Abrambson on the matter, though everyone seems to recognize the disruptive potential of being able to make and receive voice communications o&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: The iPod Touch Blog</title>
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		<title>By: My Philly Network</title>
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