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		<title>By: Pepe</title>
		<link>http://phoneboy.com/2970/truunlimited-plans-arent/comment-page-1#comment-27300</link>
		<dc:creator>Pepe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can guarantee you that TruPhone Unlimited isn&#039;t… unlimited. I&#039;ve paid them $40 on April 4th and today, April 9th, I received this SMS:

&quot;In line with the Truphone Unlimited policy of fair, personal and non-commercial use we have had to remove you from this plan &amp; back onto our Standard rates.&quot;


During this period I have made 2 hours 52 minutes and 20 seconds of calls via the Truphone service, and there&#039;s an additional call registered to my own mobile of 1h59m33s that I cannot understand how it happened.

Even if I count this last &quot;loopback&quot; call, I&#039;ve used a total of  4h51m53s or about 292 minutes… and I&#039;ve paid $40 for that, or an average of $0.13/minute. Not a good deal at all.

Now, why have I been using all this minutes in such a short period of time? Basically because I&#039;m tech savvy and have been experiencing. Second the service had not been reliable, especially suffering from a great lag, of about 4-5s. when calling TDC Switzerland, not presenting the correct CLIP – instead one number from Hong Kong or Taiwan appeared as the call originator – and finally because I had time to experience around since I&#039;m on holidays at home, here in Switzerland.

Now… Unlimited? To Cells and landlines?! 

Nope. Not by my experience. And I&#039;m quite unhappy, quite not satisfied with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can guarantee you that TruPhone Unlimited isn&#8217;t… unlimited. I&#8217;ve paid them $40 on April 4th and today, April 9th, I received this SMS:</p>
<p>&#8220;In line with the Truphone Unlimited policy of fair, personal and non-commercial use we have had to remove you from this plan &amp; back onto our Standard rates.&#8221;</p>
<p>During this period I have made 2 hours 52 minutes and 20 seconds of calls via the Truphone service, and there&#8217;s an additional call registered to my own mobile of 1h59m33s that I cannot understand how it happened.</p>
<p>Even if I count this last &#8220;loopback&#8221; call, I&#8217;ve used a total of  4h51m53s or about 292 minutes… and I&#8217;ve paid $40 for that, or an average of $0.13/minute. Not a good deal at all.</p>
<p>Now, why have I been using all this minutes in such a short period of time? Basically because I&#8217;m tech savvy and have been experiencing. Second the service had not been reliable, especially suffering from a great lag, of about 4-5s. when calling TDC Switzerland, not presenting the correct CLIP – instead one number from Hong Kong or Taiwan appeared as the call originator – and finally because I had time to experience around since I&#8217;m on holidays at home, here in Switzerland.</p>
<p>Now… Unlimited? To Cells and landlines?! </p>
<p>Nope. Not by my experience. And I&#8217;m quite unhappy, quite not satisfied with it.</p>
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		<title>By: PhoneBoy</title>
		<link>http://phoneboy.com/2970/truunlimited-plans-arent/comment-page-1#comment-27294</link>
		<dc:creator>PhoneBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 08:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read the terms in a while since I haven&#039;t been a Qwest customer for about 2 years. 

CenturyTel (my current LEC) does some peculiar things with their &quot;unlimited.&quot; While they don&#039;t state a limit, using nebulous language to define fair use, they explicitly charge $0.10 a minute for long distance fax and data calls. They charge a similar rate for long distance call forwarding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read the terms in a while since I haven&#8217;t been a Qwest customer for about 2 years. </p>
<p>CenturyTel (my current LEC) does some peculiar things with their &#8220;unlimited.&#8221; While they don&#8217;t state a limit, using nebulous language to define fair use, they explicitly charge $0.10 a minute for long distance fax and data calls. They charge a similar rate for long distance call forwarding.</p>
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		<title>By: spg</title>
		<link>http://phoneboy.com/2970/truunlimited-plans-arent/comment-page-1#comment-27293</link>
		<dc:creator>spg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i found this in the quest unlimited terms:

&#039;Usage may be monitored and customer may be required to show compliance if usage exceeds 5,000 minutes/mo. or non-compliance indicated.&#039;

sound to me like it is fine to go over 5000 minutes as long as it is not being used for a bussiness purposes; although i do not remeber seeing this 5000 minute quota at all last time i checked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i found this in the quest unlimited terms:</p>
<p>&#8216;Usage may be monitored and customer may be required to show compliance if usage exceeds 5,000 minutes/mo. or non-compliance indicated.&#8217;</p>
<p>sound to me like it is fine to go over 5000 minutes as long as it is not being used for a bussiness purposes; although i do not remeber seeing this 5000 minute quota at all last time i checked.</p>
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		<title>By: PhoneBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhoneBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 01:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read the fine print on some POTS &quot;unlimited&quot; plans and they mention a 5,000 minute limit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read the fine print on some POTS &#8220;unlimited&#8221; plans and they mention a 5,000 minute limit.</p>
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		<title>By: spg</title>
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		<dc:creator>spg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 01:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not everyone has limits on &#039;unlimited&#039; plans; yes all VOIP startups do. but companies like metroPCS and crickit do have real unlimited calling on their cell phones; also the unlimited long distance plans that can be bundled with POTS landline service are really unlimted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not everyone has limits on &#8216;unlimited&#8217; plans; yes all VOIP startups do. but companies like metroPCS and crickit do have real unlimited calling on their cell phones; also the unlimited long distance plans that can be bundled with POTS landline service are really unlimted.</p>
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		<title>By: spg</title>
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		<dc:creator>spg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 13:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on first observation when i saw these plans(actually just the $40.00 one, the $17 plan is quite expensive compared to competive offerings) i thought..wow...this is revolutionary..and..how can they affird to do this. i know quite a few people who spend a ton of money calling some of these destinations(mostly the european cell phones.)

i told quite a few friends about it think they would jump..what they did instead was suggest several of us get together and pitch in on a phone and a plan and pass it around so that we each only pay a fraction of the monthly cost. 

what i take from that is that the plan is propably too expensivde to attract any but the very heaviest users; and therefore truphone is likely to take a loss from many users when there expense exceed there income when users hit very close to the 3000 minutes. i basically now am part of a group of 4 people pitching in $10.00 each on one of these; if the cost was only $20.00 truphone would be very likel;y getting $80.00 from the group and still terminating the same number of minutes.

i am starting to wonder if this is all about meeting a certain ARPU goal set by the VC guys and they do not care how much it might cost them in termination costs. but however you look at it $40.00 and month is a lot of money for a long distance add on package.

as for the call length, truphones target audience for will i suspect to be largely in europe. in europe a call that last 60 minutes is considered totally obsurd; in the US(or amoung americans living abroad) its a different story.

spg

p.s. it should be call something more like the Tru3000 plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on first observation when i saw these plans(actually just the $40.00 one, the $17 plan is quite expensive compared to competive offerings) i thought..wow&#8230;this is revolutionary..and..how can they affird to do this. i know quite a few people who spend a ton of money calling some of these destinations(mostly the european cell phones.)</p>
<p>i told quite a few friends about it think they would jump..what they did instead was suggest several of us get together and pitch in on a phone and a plan and pass it around so that we each only pay a fraction of the monthly cost. </p>
<p>what i take from that is that the plan is propably too expensivde to attract any but the very heaviest users; and therefore truphone is likely to take a loss from many users when there expense exceed there income when users hit very close to the 3000 minutes. i basically now am part of a group of 4 people pitching in $10.00 each on one of these; if the cost was only $20.00 truphone would be very likel;y getting $80.00 from the group and still terminating the same number of minutes.</p>
<p>i am starting to wonder if this is all about meeting a certain ARPU goal set by the VC guys and they do not care how much it might cost them in termination costs. but however you look at it $40.00 and month is a lot of money for a long distance add on package.</p>
<p>as for the call length, truphones target audience for will i suspect to be largely in europe. in europe a call that last 60 minutes is considered totally obsurd; in the US(or amoung americans living abroad) its a different story.</p>
<p>spg</p>
<p>p.s. it should be call something more like the Tru3000 plan.</p>
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		<title>By: ...XOLLOTH</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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