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		<title>By: Skype J2ME - Miranda IM Forums</title>
		<link>http://www.phoneboy.com/2237/deconstructing-the-skype-mobile-client-for-j2me#comment-26407</link>
		<dc:creator>Skype J2ME - Miranda IM Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] not supported but I don't think that's important anyway.  Then I stumbled upon this website: http://www.phoneboy.com/2237/deconst...lient-for-j2me  It turns out that it's not using the overly complicated skype P2P protocol but it's using [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Deconstructing The Skype Mobile Client for J2ME</title>
		<link>http://www.phoneboy.com/2237/deconstructing-the-skype-mobile-client-for-j2me#comment-26340</link>
		<dc:creator>Deconstructing The Skype Mobile Client for J2ME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 10:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Deconstructing The Skype Mobile Client for J2ME Various people today on Jaiku and Twitter pointed me at the mobile Skype client for J2ME handsets. Several Nokia, Motorola, Samsung, and SonyEricsson phones are supported. I spent some time playing with it, looking at network traces, and doing some other snooping around to see what it does. This isn't a native Skype client. Not even  submitted 37 days ago by PhoneBoy (via phoneboy.com) bury  Tags: Nokia Samsung sonyericsson Motorola Skype Twitter J2ME Jaiku Mobile Skype    Comments [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Deconstructing The Skype Mobile Client for J2ME</title>
		<link>http://www.phoneboy.com/2237/deconstructing-the-skype-mobile-client-for-j2me#comment-26183</link>
		<dc:creator>Deconstructing The Skype Mobile Client for J2ME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 02:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] Deconstructing The Skype Mobile Client for J2ME&#160; [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: PhoneBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.phoneboy.com/2237/deconstructing-the-skype-mobile-client-for-j2me#comment-26166</link>
		<dc:creator>PhoneBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 06:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lj that's actually a great hint!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lj that&#8217;s actually a great hint!</p>
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		<title>By: lj</title>
		<link>http://www.phoneboy.com/2237/deconstructing-the-skype-mobile-client-for-j2me#comment-26136</link>
		<dc:creator>lj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a tip I have discovered while playing with this if you want to use a landline phone(or any other phone).. At the login screen where it asks for your "mobile" phone number put the number you want to call the access number from. When you get the prompt asking for permission to dial use the phone you just specified to dial the number. Then click "no" on your mobile. Great if you don't have "free" cell minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a tip I have discovered while playing with this if you want to use a landline phone(or any other phone).. At the login screen where it asks for your &#8220;mobile&#8221; phone number put the number you want to call the access number from. When you get the prompt asking for permission to dial use the phone you just specified to dial the number. Then click &#8220;no&#8221; on your mobile. Great if you don&#8217;t have &#8220;free&#8221; cell minutes.</p>
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		<title>By: PhoneBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.phoneboy.com/2237/deconstructing-the-skype-mobile-client-for-j2me#comment-26091</link>
		<dc:creator>PhoneBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@spg I don't know if Skype will ever have a SIM card, though it'd be interesting if it did.

As far as the gateway "answering" the call, I don't know. I don't have direct access to my mobile phone bill as it gets sent direct to Nokia and I never see it. In terms of "domestic" calls, if you don't want the call to pass thru Skype's infrastructure, even for a domestic call, don't make the call through Skype. 

Funneling a call through Skype also masks my Caller ID, which is a side benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@spg I don&#8217;t know if Skype will ever have a SIM card, though it&#8217;d be interesting if it did.</p>
<p>As far as the gateway &#8220;answering&#8221; the call, I don&#8217;t know. I don&#8217;t have direct access to my mobile phone bill as it gets sent direct to Nokia and I never see it. In terms of &#8220;domestic&#8221; calls, if you don&#8217;t want the call to pass thru Skype&#8217;s infrastructure, even for a domestic call, don&#8217;t make the call through Skype. </p>
<p>Funneling a call through Skype also masks my Caller ID, which is a side benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: spg</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am curious about something. have you noticed whether or not the gateway 'answers' the call? put another way are you charged on your cell phone bill for calls that do not get connected(busy signals, no answer, ect.)? ideally the gateway should only 'answer' after the other end of the call is successfully connected. but often things do not work that way with third party calling systems.

it would both cost skype less(in connection charges on flat rate plans they do not receive any additional per call revenue from) and likely improve call quality(by way of passing through fewer codec conversions) to have domestic calls dial out directly even if selected from the skype contact list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am curious about something. have you noticed whether or not the gateway &#8216;answers&#8217; the call? put another way are you charged on your cell phone bill for calls that do not get connected(busy signals, no answer, ect.)? ideally the gateway should only &#8216;answer&#8217; after the other end of the call is successfully connected. but often things do not work that way with third party calling systems.</p>
<p>it would both cost skype less(in connection charges on flat rate plans they do not receive any additional per call revenue from) and likely improve call quality(by way of passing through fewer codec conversions) to have domestic calls dial out directly even if selected from the skype contact list.</p>
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		<title>By: spg</title>
		<link>http://www.phoneboy.com/2237/deconstructing-the-skype-mobile-client-for-j2me#comment-26087</link>
		<dc:creator>spg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this looks a lot like iSkoot. this is a good model for 'airtime countries' places like north America and china were cell phone service is sold in airtime units for inbound and outbound calling. on the other hand in much of the world(europe comes to mind here) the driving interest in mobile VOIP is about bypassing the high termination charges for cell phone calls by using data instead. also i am quite curious about which countries they have the local 'break-in' numbers for; clearly unlike a data plan based client this only work for outbound if skype has numbers in your country.

what makes the 3 skypephone so unique and interesting has nothing to do with technology but with the unique business model. you buy the phone and than all skype calls are free of charge in any country with a 3 network. there is still no way to get that deal on any other phone/carrier. 

any prediction about the possibilities of a future 'skype GSM SIM card?' i am thinking a totally carrier neutral roaming SIM. you would pay a per country roaming charge but 100% of calls would terminate via skype and akypein would be your inbound numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this looks a lot like iSkoot. this is a good model for &#8216;airtime countries&#8217; places like north America and china were cell phone service is sold in airtime units for inbound and outbound calling. on the other hand in much of the world(europe comes to mind here) the driving interest in mobile VOIP is about bypassing the high termination charges for cell phone calls by using data instead. also i am quite curious about which countries they have the local &#8216;break-in&#8217; numbers for; clearly unlike a data plan based client this only work for outbound if skype has numbers in your country.</p>
<p>what makes the 3 skypephone so unique and interesting has nothing to do with technology but with the unique business model. you buy the phone and than all skype calls are free of charge in any country with a 3 network. there is still no way to get that deal on any other phone/carrier. </p>
<p>any prediction about the possibilities of a future &#8217;skype GSM SIM card?&#8217; i am thinking a totally carrier neutral roaming SIM. you would pay a per country roaming charge but 100% of calls would terminate via skype and akypein would be your inbound numbers.</p>
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